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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
情怀110分，周四下午四点场坐满了观众，惊叫掌声不断，观影过程确实很爽。但剧情也因为情怀牺牲了一些合理性。事实是角色太多的超英电影真的没那么容易拍得好看啊，这个片子的剪辑节奏有些问题。另外动作场面稍微有些普通了。
流媒体上线都能鸽，不想再等了，还是看的枪版，下个月有心情再把大战段落补一下。三部了，角色没啥成长就算了，荷兰弟还是只会angela baby式的干瞪眼无辜脸，越看越烦，反观托比加菲达福都带来了非常让人动容的表演。头一个小时太拖沓了，直接整些观众爱看的东西不好吗？
值得一提的是片尾动画的设计，巧妙融合了许多数学、物理学的图形元素。除了台阶错觉图案外，能叫的上名的有：相对论中对万有引力的二维形象化展示、莫比乌斯环，最后罗巴切夫斯基几何的马鞍面幻化成蜘蛛侠的脸，直叫人拍案叫绝，这一版比平行宇宙更平行宇宙！
用户乱改需求引发的混乱。电影非常长，短个十五分钟的煽情戏应该也没影响，中间spider verse的部分确实情怀。第一个彩蛋毒液，第二个彩蛋Dr Strange预告片，可以不等。
AMC IMAX 看到中途注定要死的人物死去的时候我一点都不感动，白眼都快翻上天了，特别想离场，还没生完气，托比就出场了！（我一定是全场尖叫最大声的那个！）TM都是消费情怀的套路，但后面三代蜘蛛侠同框打斗戏还是把我安抚住了。漫威系列电影拍过一百遍的无力吐槽的决战戏因为有了三人同框立刻变精彩了。加菲接住掉落的MJ（想起没接住的石头姐）眼含热泪的那一幕，骗了我多少眼泪啊，值回票价！很喜欢结尾的处理，小蜘蛛长大了。（但我是不是以后看不到女神赞达亚了？）吐槽一下字幕走完之后的奇异博士的彩蛋尼玛都快赶上预告片长度，太敷衍了，彩蛋本该短小精悍勾得人心里痒痒，结果就相当于加了个片尾预告。我听到漫威电影里说过无数次的那句”I need your help.” 又忍不住翻了个白眼，烦不烦？？
终于是看完了，情怀真的拉满！静下来仔细想想也有一些硬伤，比如降智的奇异博士 圣母的彼得帕克。但是在看的过程中真的是充满了惊喜与感动
看到托比出现的一瞬间哭了，疲倦、平静、衰老的面孔，童年记忆里的超级英雄，终于变成了中年人。依然清楚记得当年在亲戚家里看蜘蛛侠的情形，而那位伯父已经逝世多年。所以可怕的事情终于发生在了我身上：我也到了怀旧的年纪。回到片子本身，其实依然是妇联式的创作逻辑，只是这一次被剥削的不是漫威的系列英雄作品，而是那些原本并不属于漫威、甚至被漫威取而代之的蜘蛛侠电影（它们象征着一种旧的超级英雄片逻辑，因漫威的兴起而宣告死亡）。集结老去的英雄、治愈混乱的坏蛋，所有这些构想都非常美好。唯一问题在于，这样做完全牺牲了剧作逻辑和新英雄的人格。小蜘蛛和奇异博士，甚至不能说是工具人，而是站在了本作核心魅力的反面。所以曾象征着革新的漫威，也终于站在了自己的反面。省流版吐槽，#一个考大学引发的血案
动作场面不错，就是剧情太降智，圣母心发作的蜘蛛侠害死了梅姨，最后还要所有人为他的过失买单，怎么看都很蠢啊，人设实在太崩，也就靠情怀支撑了。虽然看之前已经知道三代会同框，但一代二代出现时还是惊喜了一下，托比是真老了啊
1、远离圣母；
三虫同框，系列无憾。被知识诅咒的奇异博士终究帮不了因懂得太少而过度圣母的熊孩子。命犯天煞孤星，很可能是性格使然。当彼得·安德鲁加菲尔德·帕克接住MJ的时候——还是那么无可避免地热泪盈眶。
可能我真的只爱看套路的超英故事，失控到觉醒到反抗，少一个过程就觉得乱糟糟的。三代同框也没想象中的感动，甚至有点ooc，而且更对比出第三代鲜有成长，依赖太多了，为什么没有自己好好长大呢。
除开三虫同框，这电影其实非常一般甚至有些烂
面对重伤的May不赶紧叫救护车，而是一直抱着她叨逼叨；
圣母与权力意志的较量，最后竟然被好心人拯救？这是最隐形也最傲慢的传教。不愧是好莱坞，不愧是迪士尼。
托比、加菲、绿魔和章鱼博士带着一堆小孩（含奇异博士）过家家。
就这样结束也挺好的，毕竟故事已经无处再发展下去了。卖情怀的部分比较无感，毕竟除了Tom Holland以外没怎么关注过前几任，只知道McGuire经历比较惨。还有就是DD出场的时候惊艳了一下。整体来说是挺乱的一部电影，而且让Aunt May形象打了折扣
三星半，荷兰弟成长的故事。虽然电影情怀很感人，但是又把很多原有的东西又打破了，漫威超级英雄版权这一块也快消耗得差不多了。 / 2022.1.23 家
主线和动机太弱智了 如果不是双蛛同台（说的只是Tobey和Andrew Tom是最差的一代）根本不值得看
除了三代同框的情怀，多元宇宙的融合外，其他的看点太少，为了配合多元宇宙，甚至把奇异博士的智商也同步调低。
这次接到了MJ，也离开了MJ，和漫画一样了orz
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